Tuesday, 28 October 2008
Identitiy
The following blog should be used to explore and explain your opinions on the issues surrounding diversity and multiculturalism. After every lesson you could explain what you thought about the issues studied in class, you could raise any new issues, or simply respond to other people's blogs. Any blog you submit may be used as part of your unit assessment.
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Diversity, Identity & Multiculturalism: Pupil Levels
Wajiya: L6c in P4C- clear, reasoned arguments communicated effectively. Responds to views that are different to her own. Now needs to make judgements with clear justification and think about local, national and global perspectives. Limited contribution to blogs. Explains views but does not justify them and lacks focus. Concept: Identity (L6c) Processes: Critical Reflection (L6b) Enquiry (L6a) = Level 6b
Saira Iqbal: L7c from Blog: clear communication of ideas and selection of evidence. Responds to views of others and clearly understands these views incorporating them in her own opinions. Lacks confidence to contribute actively in P4C which is a real shame as has some very interesting ideas. Concept: Identity (7c) Processes: Critical Reflection (6c) Enquiry (5a). Overall: Level: 6a
Tirhas Fetwi: Active involvement in P4C and can communicate own views. Struggles to listen to and incorporate the views of others. Has 'stubborn views' and reluctant to change them. Blogging restricted by use of slang! Has some excellent ideas i.e. multiculturalism does not exist. This must be developed further and explained in depth. Is a potential Level 8. Concept: Identity (6a) Processes: Critical Reflection (6a) Enquiry (6b). Overall: Level 6a
Ilyas Sadiq: An extremely confident and opinionated individual in group activites. Has awarness of contemporary events and can respond to the views of others. Uses evidence to justify opinions effectively. Now must seek to explore his ideas in written form beginning with the blogs. Concept: Identity (5a) Processes: Critical Reflection (6c) Enquiry (6c). Overall: Level 6c
Sidra Malik: you deal best with facts Sidra. You have a clear understanding of what goes where and you have started to select significant pieces of evidence. However you struggle when it comes to decisions. You must start to give you opinion in your work and select pieces of evidence in support of your argument. Concept: Identity (6c) Processes: Critical Reflection (5c) Enquiry (5c). Overall: Level 5a
Aisha Parveen: you have some good ideas and express them consistently well. This shows a good understanding of the concepts studied. You must now begin to include clearer facts and statistics in support of your arguments. Explain clearly what you mean and include actual examples of issues with multiculturalism or schemes to prevent discrimination. Concept: Identity (4a) Processes: Critical Reflection (5c) Enquiry (4a). Overall: Level 5c
Jamal Uddin: you have a satisfactory understanding of the concept of identity. However, your ideas are far too general and lack any factual information. Use the links on the blog to locate facts nto support your argument. You must also test your opinions more actively through class discussions and in the context of P4c. Concept: Identity (4b) Processes: Critical Reflection (4b) Enquiry (4b). Overall: Level 4b
Komal Mahnoor: your ideas are far too general and do not include any factual detail. Think about what we looked at in lesson and include some of the examples in your argument. Your explanations must be developed in greater depth. Always think: why???? More regular blogging and active contribution to class discussions will help. Concept: Identity (3a) Processes: Critical Reflection (4c) Enquiry (4c). Overall: 4c Level
Madhia Habib: you have a clear understanding of what identity and diversity mean for you and your community. You must now consider these concepts in a wider context i.e. Britain, Europe and the wider world. Think about issues of immigration and try to balance your ideas. You must communicate your ideas verbally in lesson. Concept: Identity (4c) Processes: Critical Reflection (4c) Enquiry (4b). Overall: Level 4c
Iqra Rehman: you have a satisfactory understanding of the main issues involved but you are restricted to what they mean to you and how they effect you. Now look at all sides and think about how issues such as racism affect all people involved. Why do people discriminate? This may be the clue to preventingit. There must be more of your opinion too but based on the fcats you have used. Concept: Identity (3a) Processes: Critical Reflection (4c) Enquiry (4c). Overall: Level 4c
Usman Ali: you make some good points but they are rarely developed in enough detail and lack any facts. Focus on one point in your argument, (i.e. how can communities let each other exist?) and explain it in as much detail as you can. You must also start to become involved in class discussions so that you can develop and test your ideas. Concept: Identity (4c) Processes: Critical Reflection (4c) Enquiry (3a). Overall: Level 4
Zehnab Rasool: excellent use of factual detail to support your argument and clearly constructed arguments. You must now focus on making judgements and considering alternative points of view in your work. Think about how to respond to people who may disagree with you and think about what your best argument would be to justify your opinions. Concept: Identity (6c) Processes: Critical Reflection (6c) Enquiry (6b). Overall: Level 6c
Hannan Butt: you communicate your ideas with confidence and have the ability to respond quickly to the views of others. Your knowledge of the key concept is limited and you must take time to incorporate factual knowledge into your arguments. Finally you must spend more time developing an dextending your written work and looking at the views of people who may disagree with you. Concept: Identity (4c) Processes: Critical Reflection (5b) Enquiry (4b). Overall: Level 4a
Khadra Mohammed: you clearly understand the issues that surround identity and diversity but you must do this in greater depth. Think about how issues like immigration may affect all people including immigrants and those who live in the country of destination. You must begin to communicate your opinions in class discussions justifying your opinions with clear examples. Concept: Identity (4c) Processes: Critical Reflection (3a) Enquiry (3a). Overall: Level 4c
Umar Ali: you raise some excellent points Umar and communicate your ideas effectively but you must begin to concentrate on specific ideas you raise. Think about one particular point and develop it further. Read through your comments and make sure that you explain everything you say. Try to think about what questions another person may ask you. More active contribution to class discussions also required. Concept: Identity (4b) Processes: Critical Reflection (4a) Enquiry (4c). Overall: Level 4b
Fozia Nazmeen: your comments and ideas are far too underdeveloped. You must look at al issues/questions from two points of view. You must have empathy for other people's views and be able to reply to them. You lack confidence and struggle to communicate your ideas. Try to create a mind map of your ideas before you explain your argument. Concept: Identity (3c) Processes: Critical Reflection (3b) Enquiry (3c). Overall: Level 3c
Aisha Mir: you develop your arguments carefully and try to look at all points of view on the issue. Make sure that you include as many factual details as possible. You lack confidence in class discussions and must be able to communicate your ideas to others. You must also include conclusions in your work and begin to make decisions that you can justify with evidence.
Concept: Identity (5a) Processes: Critical Reflection (5c) Enquiry (4a). Overall: Level 5c
Farida Ahmed: some good ideas Farida carefully expressed. Now begin to look at all of the issues that surround the idea of nationality, Britishness. At the moment your work is too clinical and must be developed. Think about all of the questions included in the big question before you write your blog. What are the most controversial questions to be answered. Concept: Identity (5a) Processes: Critical Reflection (5b) Enquiry (5b). Overall: Level 5b
Mariam Gulzar: avoid simply copying chunks of text out. Use facts and evidence only to support your opinions on the issues studied. You must ensure that you look at arguments for and against the issue you are looking at and then make a conclusion where you finally make a decision on the question. You must contribute more actively to class discussions and group activities. Concept: Identity (5c) Processes: Critical Reflection (5c) Enquiry (5c). Overall: Level 5c
Zaira Ahmed: you include some interesting points but they lack detail and are not developed. Think about all of the issues surrounding the point you make. Also imagine that you are a non specialist reading your blog. Would you understand the key terms and issues? You must also begin to communicate your ideas in class discussions in order to test an ddevelop your opinions. Concept: Identity (4c) Processes: Critical Reflection (4c) Enquiry (3a). Overall: Level 4c
Letitia Smith: an excellent effort. You clearly have very strong opinions on these issues. What you must do is look at and consider alternative views to your own and begin to respond to them. this is very difficult especially when your views are so different. Look at the issue without emotion and construct an argument based on powerful evidence. Concept: Identity (6b) Processes: Critical Reflection (6c) Enquiry (5a) Overall: Level 6c
Naomi Earlington: some really clear and passionate observations that demonstrates a good understanding of the issues surrounding identity. In order to improve start to look at all sides of the argument and think about issues of racism and other forms of dsicrimination in national and global terms. In addition think about the issues from non-personal points of view. Can we understand why racism exists? Concept: Identity: (5c) Critical Reflection (4a) Enquiry (4a). Overall: Level 5c
Haleema Khan: you raise some interesting points about identity but you do not develop these in enough detail. Think about the different ways in which discrimination may be prevented and assess their effectiveness. You must also consider in detail the reasons why people discriminate? YOu must finally participate more actively in class discussions in order to form and develop your opinions on the issues studied. You are far too quiet. Concept: identity (4c) critical reflection (4c) enquiry (4a). Overall: 4b
Saira Iqbal: L7c from Blog: clear communication of ideas and selection of evidence. Responds to views of others and clearly understands these views incorporating them in her own opinions. Lacks confidence to contribute actively in P4C which is a real shame as has some very interesting ideas. Concept: Identity (7c) Processes: Critical Reflection (6c) Enquiry (5a). Overall: Level: 6a
Tirhas Fetwi: Active involvement in P4C and can communicate own views. Struggles to listen to and incorporate the views of others. Has 'stubborn views' and reluctant to change them. Blogging restricted by use of slang! Has some excellent ideas i.e. multiculturalism does not exist. This must be developed further and explained in depth. Is a potential Level 8. Concept: Identity (6a) Processes: Critical Reflection (6a) Enquiry (6b). Overall: Level 6a
Ilyas Sadiq: An extremely confident and opinionated individual in group activites. Has awarness of contemporary events and can respond to the views of others. Uses evidence to justify opinions effectively. Now must seek to explore his ideas in written form beginning with the blogs. Concept: Identity (5a) Processes: Critical Reflection (6c) Enquiry (6c). Overall: Level 6c
Sidra Malik: you deal best with facts Sidra. You have a clear understanding of what goes where and you have started to select significant pieces of evidence. However you struggle when it comes to decisions. You must start to give you opinion in your work and select pieces of evidence in support of your argument. Concept: Identity (6c) Processes: Critical Reflection (5c) Enquiry (5c). Overall: Level 5a
Aisha Parveen: you have some good ideas and express them consistently well. This shows a good understanding of the concepts studied. You must now begin to include clearer facts and statistics in support of your arguments. Explain clearly what you mean and include actual examples of issues with multiculturalism or schemes to prevent discrimination. Concept: Identity (4a) Processes: Critical Reflection (5c) Enquiry (4a). Overall: Level 5c
Jamal Uddin: you have a satisfactory understanding of the concept of identity. However, your ideas are far too general and lack any factual information. Use the links on the blog to locate facts nto support your argument. You must also test your opinions more actively through class discussions and in the context of P4c. Concept: Identity (4b) Processes: Critical Reflection (4b) Enquiry (4b). Overall: Level 4b
Komal Mahnoor: your ideas are far too general and do not include any factual detail. Think about what we looked at in lesson and include some of the examples in your argument. Your explanations must be developed in greater depth. Always think: why???? More regular blogging and active contribution to class discussions will help. Concept: Identity (3a) Processes: Critical Reflection (4c) Enquiry (4c). Overall: 4c Level
Madhia Habib: you have a clear understanding of what identity and diversity mean for you and your community. You must now consider these concepts in a wider context i.e. Britain, Europe and the wider world. Think about issues of immigration and try to balance your ideas. You must communicate your ideas verbally in lesson. Concept: Identity (4c) Processes: Critical Reflection (4c) Enquiry (4b). Overall: Level 4c
Iqra Rehman: you have a satisfactory understanding of the main issues involved but you are restricted to what they mean to you and how they effect you. Now look at all sides and think about how issues such as racism affect all people involved. Why do people discriminate? This may be the clue to preventingit. There must be more of your opinion too but based on the fcats you have used. Concept: Identity (3a) Processes: Critical Reflection (4c) Enquiry (4c). Overall: Level 4c
Usman Ali: you make some good points but they are rarely developed in enough detail and lack any facts. Focus on one point in your argument, (i.e. how can communities let each other exist?) and explain it in as much detail as you can. You must also start to become involved in class discussions so that you can develop and test your ideas. Concept: Identity (4c) Processes: Critical Reflection (4c) Enquiry (3a). Overall: Level 4
Zehnab Rasool: excellent use of factual detail to support your argument and clearly constructed arguments. You must now focus on making judgements and considering alternative points of view in your work. Think about how to respond to people who may disagree with you and think about what your best argument would be to justify your opinions. Concept: Identity (6c) Processes: Critical Reflection (6c) Enquiry (6b). Overall: Level 6c
Hannan Butt: you communicate your ideas with confidence and have the ability to respond quickly to the views of others. Your knowledge of the key concept is limited and you must take time to incorporate factual knowledge into your arguments. Finally you must spend more time developing an dextending your written work and looking at the views of people who may disagree with you. Concept: Identity (4c) Processes: Critical Reflection (5b) Enquiry (4b). Overall: Level 4a
Khadra Mohammed: you clearly understand the issues that surround identity and diversity but you must do this in greater depth. Think about how issues like immigration may affect all people including immigrants and those who live in the country of destination. You must begin to communicate your opinions in class discussions justifying your opinions with clear examples. Concept: Identity (4c) Processes: Critical Reflection (3a) Enquiry (3a). Overall: Level 4c
Umar Ali: you raise some excellent points Umar and communicate your ideas effectively but you must begin to concentrate on specific ideas you raise. Think about one particular point and develop it further. Read through your comments and make sure that you explain everything you say. Try to think about what questions another person may ask you. More active contribution to class discussions also required. Concept: Identity (4b) Processes: Critical Reflection (4a) Enquiry (4c). Overall: Level 4b
Fozia Nazmeen: your comments and ideas are far too underdeveloped. You must look at al issues/questions from two points of view. You must have empathy for other people's views and be able to reply to them. You lack confidence and struggle to communicate your ideas. Try to create a mind map of your ideas before you explain your argument. Concept: Identity (3c) Processes: Critical Reflection (3b) Enquiry (3c). Overall: Level 3c
Aisha Mir: you develop your arguments carefully and try to look at all points of view on the issue. Make sure that you include as many factual details as possible. You lack confidence in class discussions and must be able to communicate your ideas to others. You must also include conclusions in your work and begin to make decisions that you can justify with evidence.
Concept: Identity (5a) Processes: Critical Reflection (5c) Enquiry (4a). Overall: Level 5c
Farida Ahmed: some good ideas Farida carefully expressed. Now begin to look at all of the issues that surround the idea of nationality, Britishness. At the moment your work is too clinical and must be developed. Think about all of the questions included in the big question before you write your blog. What are the most controversial questions to be answered. Concept: Identity (5a) Processes: Critical Reflection (5b) Enquiry (5b). Overall: Level 5b
Mariam Gulzar: avoid simply copying chunks of text out. Use facts and evidence only to support your opinions on the issues studied. You must ensure that you look at arguments for and against the issue you are looking at and then make a conclusion where you finally make a decision on the question. You must contribute more actively to class discussions and group activities. Concept: Identity (5c) Processes: Critical Reflection (5c) Enquiry (5c). Overall: Level 5c
Zaira Ahmed: you include some interesting points but they lack detail and are not developed. Think about all of the issues surrounding the point you make. Also imagine that you are a non specialist reading your blog. Would you understand the key terms and issues? You must also begin to communicate your ideas in class discussions in order to test an ddevelop your opinions. Concept: Identity (4c) Processes: Critical Reflection (4c) Enquiry (3a). Overall: Level 4c
Letitia Smith: an excellent effort. You clearly have very strong opinions on these issues. What you must do is look at and consider alternative views to your own and begin to respond to them. this is very difficult especially when your views are so different. Look at the issue without emotion and construct an argument based on powerful evidence. Concept: Identity (6b) Processes: Critical Reflection (6c) Enquiry (5a) Overall: Level 6c
Naomi Earlington: some really clear and passionate observations that demonstrates a good understanding of the issues surrounding identity. In order to improve start to look at all sides of the argument and think about issues of racism and other forms of dsicrimination in national and global terms. In addition think about the issues from non-personal points of view. Can we understand why racism exists? Concept: Identity: (5c) Critical Reflection (4a) Enquiry (4a). Overall: Level 5c
Haleema Khan: you raise some interesting points about identity but you do not develop these in enough detail. Think about the different ways in which discrimination may be prevented and assess their effectiveness. You must also consider in detail the reasons why people discriminate? YOu must finally participate more actively in class discussions in order to form and develop your opinions on the issues studied. You are far too quiet. Concept: identity (4c) critical reflection (4c) enquiry (4a). Overall: 4b
98 comments:
8D Question for discussion: How do famous people affect our identity?
8R Question for discussion: How do our family affect our identity?
8N Question for discussion: How do our identities change over time?
hey ppl ....well, famous ppl get alot ov attraction 4rom photographers n kids in skwlz dis mayb bcuz ppl want 2 b like dem or ave things the famous person az ,dere is no harm in dat but the person may take it 2 da extreme.Howeva in many cases it may not be dem affecting our identity but in can b inspiration from the famous person n DERE IZ NO HARM IN DAT IZ DERE?????????????????????????(COMMENT BAC WIV UR OPINION /IDEA$$ZZZ!!) XXxXX
family afect your identity because you spend time with them and if you do somthing wrong they tell you and you learn form it. they also give you advice on thimgs such as what you shold wear this can also affect our identity, and the way we choose to do things.
heyy well i fink that da ppl around us (friends) can affect our identity cuz they mite be doin sumfink bad/gd and we feel left out therfore we giv in 2 peer pressure
also famous people are also a factor in our identity cuz we may fink of dem as our idol and we may wanna do da same thng they were famous 4!! C0MM3NT B4CK
8M: Do you have to be able to speak English to be a British citizen?
Hiyyyyyyaaaaaaa!!!!Wel i fink dat our families effect oour identity coz lyk mayb cuz of religion or summat. Coz if u wer jewish ud wear a kippah or a talith, and if you wer a muslim ud wear a headscarf, if u wer a Christian u mite carry rosary beads. Ya gt da msg.SO Byeeeeeeeee 0X
hiya dis iz hw my family affect my identity: my family affects my identity 4rm wot I wear, hw I behve n hw one is expctd 2 b 4rm my bckground. My actions reflct my family, my community n my faith.
My family also guide me 2 da right path...
sayyfeeeee pplzz
well as i was sayin in lesson ; i think tht in order tu be a british citizen you gtta speek de language cah ow u gunna get about n tht and i finnk its de law newaiis lol
but i dno if ya came to live in dis country n u didnt speak de languageyou would be lost you wouldnt be able to get a job and you wouldnt have a very good standard of living and if you cum frm sum nxt country de least you can du is learn tu speek de language basically and i rele cannot be arsed tu write nemore lol so yeh im outttttttttttt
holla back yeh xx[x]xx
hello peeplz
i dont think you have 2 know english to be a british citizen because you might have been born in england but what if your parents took u 2 like sweden or mr farmers fav country germany and brought you up there. so like that would mean you were english even though you spoke a diff language because you were born in england.
so thats what i think peepz
nah nah ryan ah see wah ya sayin styl well sorta
u ent gtta be born in england to be a brittish citezen you could come from almost ne country i just fink you MUSSSSTTTT AND NEEEEEEEEEDDDDD to speek de language. it ent a problem if you can speak bare diffo languages aslong as you can speak da 1 of tha country ur in but its da same wit ne country wateva country ur in you need to be able to speak tht language simple azzzz lol
skeyyn
idil ismail 8m:In my opinion I think that you should be able to speak English to be a British citizen, In order to earn a decent job and living. You wouldn't be able to do many things such as understand what amount of money the shop keaper has asked for, so you may even get deceived and loose your money.ect.
Say if you have immigrated from a different country to England and you would want to live here and be a citizen of this country you would have to be able to speak english, infact it would be compolsory for you to speak it fluently and also read & write fluenlty.so that's why it's important to be able to speak english to be a british citizen.
ye ye i c wat ya sayin letitia
i think that to be a proper british citizen you should be a hard worker. but thats what i think
i also think you should at least know the tune of the national anthem. but once again thats what i think
TO be british i think you should support the british international team
why do people think of britain when some 1 says fish and chips?
8M:[[heyy]]
i fink dahh u gta be abled to speak enlgish to be ah british citizen...yuh wudnt be abled to do anyfin if yuh cudnt speak english... lyk ghet ah good job orr be abled to read any enlgish dahs necessary...also, u aint gna av a translater evrywhre yuh go...so u gta knw english...even if u dnt knw it fluently..jz a little wud be owyt jz so dah u can actualli understand it nd ryt it.
if u cum from sum nxt country nd u wanna stay in england u gta be abled to understand english... nd plus u gna hav a test anywaii to see if u understand english nd if u can be a british citizen...if yuh dnt knw der language dah evry1 communicates wiv den its gna b hard for yer nd u aint gna av a gud standard of living.
[[HIT BCK WIV A COMMENT]] sfe
8M:
DO U HAV 2 SPK ENGLISH 2 B A BRITISH CITIZEN?
ANS- WEL.. I THINK U DO, BCUZ, SAY IF U WONA A JOB OR SOMFIN IN ENGLAND U WUD HAVE 2 SPK ENGLISH WONT YA. ALSO IF U DONT SPK ENGLISH HOW WUD U COMUNICATE AROUND THE COMUNITY.
ANYWAYS, IF U COM IN2 DIS COUNTRY FRM SOM NXT COUNTRY, U WOULD HAVE 2 SPK ENGLISH TO COMMUNICATE WIDDA ENGLISH PEEPZ ETC.(ENGLISH TEST).
(THERE DATS 1 HMWK DOWN, ONLY LIKE A DOZON MOR LEFT)
LOL, THANX 4 REEDIN.
BUT PLZ REPLY BAK IF POSIBLE
i dont think u need to speak english to be a british citizen
#but i understand wat ya sayin farhan
Family has an affect on our identity.From what we wear eat and follow as culture and tradition.
idil: I also think that you should be able to speak english to be a british citizen cuz it would be better cuz you would be multi cultural and earn a betta livin!!!!!!
coment if necessary!!!!
first we was in a group and one person from our group has to write about personality then we have to write a queestion in the board.
how do our identities change over time?
our identity change over time when childrens learn things from their parents or family and then they learn things from their children.
sayyfeee peoplezz ihhtszzz meeee lmaoo bak agaiin
yoo fatima i see wah u sayin innit basically wah i was sayyin ya get mhe itsszz lyk ow can u expect tu get orrn wit lyf iff ya dntt spk de language of de country urr in ah meen lyk letss tek away de big stuff yeh de likkle stuff de evrydaii stuff u gunna struggle if ya dnt speek de language evry daii problemsszz u occur lyk goin tu de shop and wen ya mekin tingszz tu eat u need tu read and write,
itszz ah diffo ting completely if yaarr juss cummin ovvar 4 a holidayy ( personally i dnt c y ne1 wuld lmao ) but styyl
yarr need tu speek it even if it juss a likkle bit n dhen in tym you wuld be cum murree fluent soo yehh man dhattsss my opinion truss
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nuff saiid
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Tirhas: an intersting argument. I think that for good or bad the famous can affect our identities. Focus on the positive side and give some examples. What else affects your identity?
Zaira: a good example. Who else affects your identity? What are the most important influences on your identity?
Saira: a really interesting point but you must develop your ideas further. Look at the differen tways your identity is affected by peer pressure and give examples. Can yo decide who is the most important influence? Wll or does this change at any point?
Madhia: so for you religion and family affects your identity. Excellent! Can these identies ever clash?
Mariam: a clear argument but you must develop this further with examples. This doesn't have to be personal to you. Think about what someone might say who disagreed with you.
Letitia: a good point (L3). Support your argument with clear examples using current issues and topical events (L4). Think about what people might say if they disagreed with you! *L5)
Ryan: some interesting points. Do you see yourself as British or English? What's the difference? Use facts to support your arguments and think carefully about why people may need to speak English. Can you have dual national identity?
Idil: a clear argument but you must include clear examples and explain them in greater depth. Try looking at some of the useful links on the blog to find out some of the laws regarding migration.
Ryan: good questions! Is there a British national team? What do you think of when you think of other countries? What are other national idenities?
Fatima: why is language necessary? Think of all the things you couldn't do if you could'nt speak English? What is a citizen?
Farhan: some good pints but try to explain what the consequences of not speaking English would be.
Haleema: your blog lacks detail. Try to give more examples. Is this it? What else gives us our identity?
Idil: what is so important about multiculturalism? What does it mean?
Habiba: how do our parents affect our identity? Does this ever change? Why?
Letitia: some good points but make sure you are clear about the specific ways in which language is important top you!!!
hi
well i fink family affect our identity by the way they tell us wht to do and wht not. They explain when wi do bad n also the way they act around us affects us cuz we spend more time wiv our family than wiv anyone else so we start to do some ov da fings they do e.g dress da way they do, talk da way they do(slang, fast, slow e.t.c)so dat affects our identities.
Iqra: a clear explanation. Think about how this may change over time. Do our identities change as we get older? What are the most important parts of our identity?
wah gwarn
ah c wah u sayin sirr
language is important tu me cah its whaa i speak innit id be da same if it was neo va country i dno ow tu stress de point any more mann its important becausee you need it for everydaay life its the law and you wouldnt be able to get by without it
du ya get wah im sayin !!
for example:
* driving - you need to be able to read the sign post
*shopping- you need to be able to know how much things cost how much money you have and what ur buyin
*books
* if you went to a resurant
*t0 get a job
*earm a decent livin
*and just evryday tings
I CANT STRESS THE POINT ANYMORE !!!
ITSS IMPORTANT !!!
to be honest i dont see how you can dissagree (not cause i fink im always tight or nefin lyk that)
but jus because how would you get about and survive and live and anyone who questioned it i would reply with one question
HOW ARE YOU GOING TO LIVE ??????
and tghey couldnt come back with some stupid ansa like ohh id get a transalter or ma brother could come woth me or id do it
lets be realistic YOU CANT HAVE SUM1 NEXT TU YA 4 DA REST OF YA LYF CAN YA
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
itszz jus rar important
well dhatsszz wat i fink anywaiizz siirr
( PPL COMM3NT BACK IF YA DISSAGRE OR AGRREE I ENT BOVVERED )
STANDARD PPL
famus ppl gt lts of attention frm phtogrphers n kidz n adlts as they wnt to be lyk thm act lyk em n hve the thngs they hve n do the thngs they do but sum famous people strt to tke drugs n so do kidz n other ppl as they think its kul becuz the fmus persn is doin it
8D Question for discussion: How do famous people affect our identity?
hello pplz n mr farmer xD ^^
hmm...well there are different types of celebs out there and different celeb groups. music is a big decider. if u like 50 cent n stuff like that ur a chav, if u like black sabbath etc ur a rocker. personally i like rock/emo/dance so that makes me rocker/emo/raver which is a bit wierd.
film can be another thing. like sum ppl like horror which makes them a kind of person who likes messed up monsters killin ppl in demonic ways.
they also like th way they dress so if they see eminem in a tracksuit, they make u want a tracksuit so ull be all cool.
peace out peeps \m/(-_-)\m/
Richie
UR FAMILY AFFECTS UR IDENTITY COZ THEY LOKK AFTA YA 4RM AT A YOUNG AGE N MAKE DECISONS 4 U UNTIL U CAN MAKE UR OWN.
ALSO THEY TELL YA 4RM RIGHT N WRONG WEN U GO OLDER U MAKE UR OWN DECIONS N LIVE UR LYF HOW U WANT 2.
8R
Our Family Afects Our Identity Because We Bee With EM And That We Eat With The And Hang Around With Them Etc They Only Efect Our Identity To A Certain Age Because The We Make Decisions For Our Self
family has an affect on your identity from what you wear and eat for example, if your parents come from pakistan they would follow the pakistan tradition of wearin what they wear and eatin what they eat like rice and currys and other asion foods they eat.Your parents would like you to follow there tradidtion and religion which has an affect on your identity.
HELLO!! A lot of people affect our identity mostly family and friemds also idols/models can have an mpact too.Peer pressure is something serious cuz that can happen behind ur familys bak which can affect u mainly cuz u dont hav any advice.
I have really enjoyed reading your thoughful and compassionate opinions. You obviously take these issues seriously. I like the way you haven't just made your own comments but have taken the time to respond to each other. Best of all I love the new language you seem to be creating - dat just 2 much peepz.
I think famous people do affect our identity bcauz companyz let famous people do there advertisements and if ur inspired by dat person u think there right also wen famouspeple do sumfin u wana do it 2 cauz u want to be like em. Wen the paparazi cum and start takin fotos of famous people u fink dat i wish i was dere so people all round the wrold now me.
ELOo,
Yhh, U GOotta Speakk Engliish TOo be a Briitiish Ciitzen Because the maiin languagee spOoken iin englandd iis engliish tOo cOomuniicate wiith sOomeOone YOou GOotaa Speakk Sum Kiind Oof engliish iit DOont Havee TOo Bee PerfectOo!!
TOo Gett A GOod JOob Oor Sumfiin U GOota Speakk Engliish HOow Else iis Thaa PersOon GUnna Undaadtandd Ya!
NOo,
Aswell Because U Stiil Can BecOome A Briitiish Ciitezen WiithOout Speakiin Oor Wriitiin Engliish iit Myt Be Hrdd Butt Sum PersOon iis Gunna Speak Da Saym Launguagee andd SOo iiz Daa PersOonz Famiily!
U DOont Av TOo Av A jOob TOo! Ann YOou DOont Av TOo Speakk Engliish!! End Oov !!
8M !Sayfee!
.:Hiit BakK Wiiv Da COoment:.
8M:
u have 2 learn english, 2 b a british ctizen bcuz say if , ur mom is old and she has older children in da house 2 spk 4 her.but her children cant spk 4 her all da time.
plz send bak a comment
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Eloo(",) ANY1 DER WHO SPEAKS ENGLISH!!!
I personnaly think to be a british citizen you hav 2 speak da enlish language cauze if u cnt it will u no where nd aswell as you won't be able to coomunicate with oder British citizens who DO speak the most commam and well spoken langauage ENGLIGH. Also if you come from a foreign country dat the law nd the goverement say dat u hav to complete a test which proves dat ya speak pwapa english and dat if you come to england and want a job you have to be able to speak english and if you dnt it may lead u 2 b pennylez nd hmelez azwel!! 2 b brtish citizen you hav to hav british passport to get 1 nd ur 4rma forign country u hav 2 pass da nationality test!! or u wnt b here 4 long !! c ya reply bck asap!! FNKS(",)
hey...(naila bibi 8m)
i think if u r a british citizen u gotta speak english ........ u wont be able to communicate wiv ppl.. get a decent job.. alw u wil do is loose money. in this country there is a britsh citizen test which u will have 2 read a book which is in english. and to pass the test u MUST know english. or u wont get a british passport,n u need a british passport 2 show tat u r britsh that is ur IDENTITY. over awl u must know english 2 be a british citizen or u wont get a desent living.
reply bk if possible.
well my opinion on this is that if you can't speak english how can you even communicate with other people and how can you apply for a job when your manager is going to expect you to be able to speak english so thats ma opinion.!!!
8M:
I THINK DA CONSEQUECES 4 NOT SPKIN ENGLISH R , THAT U CANT COMMUNICAT AZWELL AS OTHER ENGLISH PEEPZ DO.
ALSO , SAY IF U HAV LETERZ/MAIL , HOW WUD U B ABLE 2 REED IT.
SAFE , HIT BAK WID SOM COMMENTS PEEPZ.
hi
i fink that u do not have to be born in britian 2 be british.i fink this cuz if u came from aboard alll u have 2 do is give a test and it will prove that u are a british citizen.
si i do not fink you have 2 be born here 2 be british
8M:
I THINK DA CONSEQUECES 4 NOT SPKIN ENGLISH R , THAT U CANT COMMUNICAT AZWELL AS OTHER ENGLISH PEEPZ DO.
ALSO , SAY IF U HAV LETERZ/MAIL , HOW WUD U B ABLE 2 REED IT.
SAFE , HIT BAK WID SOM COMMENTS PEEPZ.
well i think that you do hve 2 b avle to speak english cz then ow r u ment to communicate with other people if you expect to live here in england.and becz wen yu get a job then ur boss will expect you to b able 2 communicate.
8M:
YES U DO HAVE 2 SPK ENGLISH 2 B A BRITISH CITIZEN CUZ, U WONT BE ABLE 2 COMMUNICATE WITH THE LOCAL PEOPLE. ALSO SAY IF U HAVE MAIL U WONT B ABLE 2 REED T, WITH OUT HELP FRM ANOTHER ENGLISH PERSON.
SAFE , HIT BAK WITH SOME COMMEMTS.
our indentitty change over time because we learn things from our parents and when we learn things from little kids.
hi
i fink u dont need 2 be born here 2 be spanish cuz if u came from abroad all u need 2 do is pass a test and they will put on your passport that u are now a british citizen.
so i fink u do not have 2 be born here 2 be british
i think family affect our identity because our parents determine the way that we look,height and hair colour etc because of genetics.They also influence the way that we behave through what they do and what they say and think.
ι тнιηк тнαт уσυ нανє тσ кησω єηgℓιѕн тσ вє α вяιтιѕн ¢ιттιzєη вє¢αυѕє ιƒ уσυ ωαηт α נσв σя ѕσмєтнιηg αη∂ уσυ ∂σηт кησω єηgℓιѕн тнєη уσυ нανє α ρяσвℓєм ιтѕ σк ιƒ уσυ ¢σмє тσ вяιтαιη αη∂ тнєη ℓєαяη єηgℓιѕн ιт ιѕ ιмσятαηт вє¢αυѕє уσυ ¢αηт нαя∂ℓу ∂σ αηутнιηg ιƒ уσυ ∂σηт кησω єηgℓιѕн ѕσ тнαт мαу Ⴣє¢т уσυ รŦє
Wassup 8d Question:
i reckon that celebrities can affect our identities big time.
Example say you thought a certain Celebrity was cool most people would wanna be like that celeb so maybe they would start speaking like the celeb they start acting like the celeb they start making physical changes to look like the celeb.
BIG TIME EXAMPLE.....im sure everyone knows about the chronic amy whinehouse hardcore junkie have a look at this pic http://www.starkgossip.com/blog/2007/11/24/amy-winehouses-biggest-fan/
ridiculous i know this is how alot celebs influence fans to be like them.
i think ive said enough
safe starz
inabit
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Famous people get alotof attention because they are either cool or a special in a way they dress or act.
children and people try copyin dem and dey get terrorised in skwl den it becumz a big deal.famous ppl get alot ov attraction 4rom photographers n kids in skwlz dis mayb bcuz ppl want 2 b like dem or ave things the famous person az ,dere is no harm in dat but the person may take it 2 da extreme
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letitia:good argument but do you think that famous people affect our identity?
qasam:good effort for your next comment try to research information to back up what your saying.
richie:good try but is there a positive side to this?
fazeela:good but a bit obvious do famous people affect our identity and how?
usman:far too brief discuss if any other people affect our identity and search for information on the internet for clues.
haleema:good effort try to look for evidence to back up what you are trying.
shamo:good i like the idea of peer presure has something to do with this discuss further.
hashim:good effort try to expand your answer.
sana:gooed comment now talk about if famous people affect our identity like our looks?
zain:good comment but try to explain a bit more for e.g what if the mother can not in a million years speak english what would you do next?????
mariam:good effort so do you think that the birtish identity if there is such a thing is affecting us because we are forgetting our own mothers tongue???
naila:good effort so are you saying that a passport gives you your identity?
maryam j:gooed comment but a bit to brief now discuss what gives you your identity?
farhan:o.k effort now discuss what gives you your identity?
zaira:good effort now look further to discussing what gives you your identity?
maryam:i can understand where your coming from but your a bit to obvious look at differnt websites to help you.
adil:well try but a bit to brief try to expand on your answers and what gives you your identity?
habiba:good try what gives us our identity? try to expand on your answers
amina:good your almost getting there try to explain your answeres a bit more.
ruksana:good but what other reasons do we need to learn english?
ummar:very good comment now try to look at peoples comments and reply to them.
ibtisam:good comment what else affects our identity?
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8м:ℓαηgυαgє ιѕ ηє¢єѕѕαяу ¢υz уσυ ωυ∂ηт вє αвℓє∂ 2 ∂σ ∂αн ∂αιℓу ∂αу тσ ∂αу ℓуƒ ƒуηgѕ υ ησямαℓℓι ∂σ ℓук...ѕнσρριηg(ωυ∂ηт вє αвℓє∂ 2 кησ нω мυ¢н ѕυмιη ιѕ η∂ нω мυ¢н мσηєу υ gтα gιν)...υмм gнєттιη α נσв( ιт ωυ∂ вє нαя∂ 2 ƒуη∂ α נσв ¢υz ησ 1 ωυ∂ нιяє υ ¢υz υ ¢ηт ѕpєαк єηgℓιѕн ρяσρєяℓι)...ωнι¢н мєαηѕ υ єηт gηα єαяη α ℓινιηg...вαѕι¢αℓℓу ∂єяѕ ℓσα∂z σ ƒуηgѕ υ ωυ∂ηт вє αвℓє∂ тσ ∂σ тнσ... мму ρρℓ тσ∂αι ¢ηт ѕρєαк єηgℓιѕн ρяσρєяℓι вυт ∂єу ѕтιℓℓ нαν α נσв η∂ ∂αн ѕσ ι ƒιηк αℓѕσ ∂αн υ ∂ηт нαν 2 ѕρєαк ∂αн ℓαηgυαgє тσ вє вяιтιѕн...ιησσ ∂αн υ ωσηт вє αвℓє∂ 2 ∂σ ∂αн ƒуηgz вυт υ ¢αη тяу η∂ ℓєяη ιт ωнιℓѕт уυя нєяє...η∂ ιƒ υ ¢υм ƒяσм ѕυм ηχт ¢συηтяу ιт gηα вє нαя∂ 2 ℓєяη ∂αн ℓαηgυαgє ѕσ ιт єηт яєℓι уυя ƒαυℓт ιƒ υ ∂ηт кησ ∂αн ℓαηgυαgє...υ ρяσв ωιℓℓ вє αвℓє∂ 2 gнєт α נσв αѕ α ¢нєƒ σя ѕυмιη ∂σιη ¢σσкιη...αωℓ υ ηєє∂ ιѕ sυмoηe 2 тяαηѕℓαтє ωαн υ ¢σσк η∂ ∂αн...ιт ∂ηт мкє υ ησт вяιтιѕн נz ¢υz υ ∂ηт кησ ∂αн ℓαηgυαgє...єνєη ιƒ υ ¢υ∂ηт ѕρєαк єηgℓιѕн αƒтα 7 уяѕ(ωнι¢н ωυ∂ вє ιмρσѕѕιвℓє ¢υz σνвισυѕℓι υ ωιℓℓ) υя ѕтιℓℓ ℓινιηg нєяє ѕσ ιт ѕтιℓℓ мкєѕ υ вяιтιѕн αѕ ℓσηg αѕ υя ραѕѕρσят ѕєz υ я! ѕσ вαѕι¢αℓℓу ιм ση вσтн ѕу∂єѕ...ι ƒιηк ιηηα ωαιι υ ∂ηт нαν 2 кησ єηgℓιѕн ιƒ υя вяιтιѕн вυт ∂єη αgєη υ ∂σ!
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Fatima- very good but expand on other people comments such as Saira's or Tirhas's
Hi
i think that our family change our identity alot beacause you live and sleep in their house 24 hour 7 days a week and they make the dissisions for you when you are a child and when you develop through life and grow up you can make your own dessisionns when your a young adult.They do this so you become a good adult and do this to keep you away from any problems and to the right path they change your identity on how you should look like and dont do it the way you like to do it .They probably might do it for religious beliefs or just maybe for safety , for example if you were a mini skirt and a bikini obviously people willl stare at you(men or women who knows) and they might kidnapp you or something so they do it to protect you beacause they care and love you.
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i think that famous people affect our life alot because they are every where we go,in our everyday life, e.g. in magazines, on billboards, in shop windows, on the internet, on the telvision AAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!]
AND I THINK THAT THEY HAVE THE MOST AFFECT ON YOUNG PEOPLE AND THE AGE OF ABOUT 13-18 AND THEY AFFECT THEM BECAUSE WHEN YOUNG BOYS SEE SOME ONE LIKE 50 CENT THEY THINK YEAH HE'S BEEN IN GANGS HE SMOKES HE'S A RAPPER , HE'S A GANGSTA BUT HE'S NOT HE'S SOME ONE WHO HAD ALOT OF POTENTIAL BUT HE MADE A MESS OF HIS LIFE!!!!
AND FOR GIRLS ITS THE SAME BUT WITH GIRLS ITS ALL ABOUT BEING ALL SUPER SKINNY AND WEARING LOADS OF MAKE UP!!!
WELL LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING SOME GIRLS MIGHT LOOK AT THEM AND THINK WOW THEIR PERFECT BUT WHAT THEY DONT NO IS THAT THEY HAVE BEEN AIRBRUSHED TO MAKE THEM LOOK PERFECT
people like your family affect your identity because you always be with them and like some people your parents hold your responsibility until you can look after yourself other things which can affect your identity are your friends because your friends might be different and they choose to do things which you don't like and like when you do problems occurring to your identity
i fink tht ur id means tht who u are what u are ur name how u act and ur features. what ur background is.
i belive evry 1 tht surrounds u e.g famo,m8s and others.they might hurt u by doin somit bad or affest u by doin sofin good.u get me.it also is about wht we do to our selves and depends on wht people thinks about ya and if u like enmies mre htn friends or trying 2 get some 1 to love u and pusshin da people tht already love u away.this can affect ur iddentity by tellin if ya good or bad nasy or nice or moody or snooby or talented ur identity is like ur personalty .
thnx ...x x x
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